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== nanochanray ==
We can debate what does or doesn't belong in this article, but it's not appropriate to silently replace the link with a third-party clone site that most of the users of the original site want nothing to do with. [[User:Insert|Insert]] ([[User talk:Insert|talk]]) 06:23, 20 March 2023 (CET)
:That isn't what it is, though. It's the only remaining instance after a dispute between two rival administrators of the site, of which one has shut his copy down and the other has not. Not "third party" and not a clone either.[[User:Wikiist|Wikiist]] ([[User talk:Wikiist|talk]]) 16:42, 21 March 2023 (CET)
::What the fuck is "rival administrator" supposed to mean? Hikari was never an administrator of any sort on nanochan, he was what was known as a "trial volunteer" with less privileges than a 4chan janny. This is the best theory about who runs nanoray as far as I know, although as far as I know there's no proof and it's based on observing his and the nanoray admin's behavior. But there's certainly no evidence that the nanoray admin was ever an admin at nanochan. If you have any proof of something different, show me. In any case, replacing the site link without any indication it is a clone run by a different person with different principles instead of a voluntary transfer is not acceptable. [[User:Insert|Insert]] ([[User talk:Insert|talk]]) 17:26, 21 March 2023 (CET)
::And if by "rival administrators" you mean rival administrators of two different websites, one of which had its contents duplicated from the other, then that's exactly what a third-party clone is. [[User:Insert|Insert]] ([[User talk:Insert|talk]]) 17:42, 21 March 2023 (CET)
::In any case, feel free to explain your "rival administrators" narrative in the page, but don't just silently change the link. Explain what happened in your view, preferably with evidence, and let other users add corroborating or contradicting evidence.[[User:Insert|Insert]] ([[User talk:Insert|talk]]) 17:53, 21 March 2023 (CET)
::Also if you're going to remove content, provide a reason for removing the content. [[User:Insert|Insert]] ([[User talk:Insert|talk]]) 17:56, 21 March 2023 (CET)

It's pretty clear by now that you (Ook) are running the clone site, and that's why you want to change the link to point there. Look, you can't just make a copy of a dead site and declare yourself the arbiter of its history and culture. At best, assuming the community accepted your site as the continuation of the old one (something that doesn't appear to have happened), you would have some influence over the next chapter of the site's history. [[User:Insert|Insert]] ([[User talk:Insert|talk]]) 16:15, 23 March 2023 (CET)

== Page has caught the attention of Lambdaplusjs ==
Relevant thread: [http://lambdaplusjs35padjaiz4jw2fugdoeutse262phqr72uf634s2wdbqd.onion/misc/33533#P35129]

If you're here from there, please consider adding some more material to this article or even starting a page about [[Lambdaplusjs]]. [[User:Insert|Insert]] ([[User talk:Insert|talk]]) 10:50, 22 March 2023 (CET)

== About reverting ==

I am in consensus with [[User:Insert|Insert]] that the changes made are relevant and should '''not''' be reverted. So do not revert them, it's 3k lines now. Reverting it over and over again expecting things to change is the definition of lunacy. Have a civil discussion and mention why each line is wrong, and give examples as to how to ''change'' them. [[User:Hikari|Hikari]] ([[User talk:Hikari|talk]]) 18:04, 11 April 2023 (CEST)
:Reasoning and civil discussion aren't things that this guy does. You're going to be at this for a very long time if you continue. Take it from me. [[User:Yuki-sama|Yuki-sama]] ([[User talk:Yuki-sama|talk]]) 17:44, 11 April 2023 (CEST)
:: I don't think it's fair to assume that [[User:Ook|Ook]] has any ties to the nanochan clone, neither do I think that matters. I personally have my biases, you too, everyone does. Our biases influence our actions, but it's reason that restrains them from those going berserk. So I think the edits should be taken at face value, and the face values is that the aforementioned person has repeatedly removed a good portion of the article, and refused to elaborate or discuss. That is vandalism. If he does change his mind and include justification for the removal of the "spinoffs" section, why nanochanray[...].onion is legitimate, etc. We all will consider those arguments at face value and might decide to act upon them to improve the article.
:Oh, and by the way, use 4 tildas (~)*4 at the end of your comments here to sign your posts next time: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Help:Talk_pages [[User:Yuki-sama|Yuki-sama]] ([[User talk:Yuki-sama|talk]]) 17:45, 11 April 2023 (CEST)
:: Thanks, I was editing for Wikipedia some years ago (horrible power-hungry admins over there btw) and it added that automatically.