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PG is a low viscosity liquid and has many applications ranging from the suspension agent used in some inhalers, to an ingredient in FDA approved oral and topical medications, as well as a preservative in food and tobacco products. VG is a high viscosity liquid organic compound with applications ranging from use as a sweetener in foods, medications, soaps, and cosmetics. | PG is a low viscosity liquid and has many applications ranging from the suspension agent used in some inhalers, to an ingredient in FDA approved oral and topical medications, as well as a preservative in food and tobacco products. VG is a high viscosity liquid organic compound with applications ranging from use as a sweetener in foods, medications, soaps, and cosmetics. | ||
As PG is a humectant it is common to | As PG is a humectant it is recommended that you drink plenty of water to stay hydrated, as otherwise it is common to experience drying of the mouth, sore throat and some unproductive coughing (especially if you've recently quit smoking cigarettes.) If similar symptoms persist when hydrated, or become more severe e.g. sore or swollen mouth, face, gums, and/or back of throat, you should consider switching to a 100% VG concentration as you may be allergic or sensitive to PG. | ||
The percentage of PG/VG is commonly 50/50, but what works best for you depends on your e-cigarette itself, personal preference, and their vaping properties. 100% VG puts out a lot of vapor, produces little to no throat hit, but mutes the flavor while 100% PG is the opposite. VG also has a relatively high resistance to the heat most atomizers put out, while a higher PG concentration might taste burnt at the same wattage. | The percentage of PG/VG is commonly 50/50, but what works best for you depends on your e-cigarette itself, personal preference, and their vaping properties. 100% VG puts out a lot of vapor, produces little to no throat hit, but mutes the flavor while 100% PG is the opposite. VG also has a relatively high resistance to the heat most atomizers put out, while a higher PG concentration might taste burnt at the same wattage. | ||
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Israeli and reptilian overlord liquids may also be acceptable. | Israeli and reptilian overlord liquids may also be acceptable. | ||
'''Recommended brands for newbies in North America''' | |||
MtBakerVapor | |||
- very cheap, good taste | |||
- customizable PG/VG blend | |||
Fuzion Vapor | |||
- A little pricey, good taste | |||
- any liquid is available with menthol, which is a plus | |||
- all liquids are pure VG | |||
AllAboutVapor | |||
- more expensive, very good taste | |||
- most (I think all, actually) liquids are 60PG/40VG | |||
- 5ml bottles are available at $2.95 a piece, good for trying a bunch of different flavors | |||
Alpha & Omega | |||
- Medium cost | |||
- 70vg/30pg | |||
- Lots of fruits | |||
Suicide Bunny | |||
- Mothers Milk | |||
Once again, taste is completely subjective, and you may not like anything recommended here; however, it's a good place to start, and remember that no two flavors are quite the same. Some flavors even vary from batch to batch. | |||
Also check out [[E-Liquid Reviews]] | |||
===DIY=== | ===DIY=== | ||
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* Distilled H2O | * Distilled H2O | ||
* Nicotine | * Nicotine | ||
* | * Nitrile gloves | ||
* A place to cook, maaaan. | * A place to cook, maaaan. | ||
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===Clearomizers=== | ===Clearomizers=== | ||
====Bottom coil==== | ====Bottom coil==== | ||
* Kanger Protank | * Kanger Protank 1/2/3 | ||
*Kanger T3S | *Kanger T3S | ||
** | **Some leaking and gurgling issues occur with both the T3S and the Protanks, however, a DIY fix can be followed [http://godofsteam.wordpress.com/2013/07/12/how-to-fix-kanger-evod-leakinggurgling-issues/ here]. | ||
* Evod | |||
====Top coil==== | ====Top coil==== | ||
* Mini Vivi Nova | * Mini Vivi Nova | ||
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===Rebuildable Atomizers=== | ===Rebuildable Atomizers=== | ||
* Drunker Tank | * Drunker Tank | ||
====Genesis==== | ====Genesis==== | ||
* RSST [Polycarbonate or Pyrex Tank] | * RSST [Polycarbonate or Pyrex Tank] | ||
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====Bottom Fed Tank RBA==== | ====Bottom Fed Tank RBA==== | ||
* Russian 91% | * Russian [91%] | ||
* Fogger [v2 | * Fogger [v2, v3, v4] | ||
* KayFun [lite, lite +] | * KayFun [lite, lite +, 3.1 ES] [Note: Fasttech now sells glass tank kits for some KayFun models for very cheap (~$3), so if you want a clear section but are worried about cracking this is a good solution.] | ||
===Rebuildable Dripping Atomizers=== | ===Rebuildable Dripping Atomizers=== | ||
* Magma | |||
* IGO-W | * IGO-W | ||
* IGO-L | * IGO-L | ||
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* The Patriot | * The Patriot | ||
* Trident | * Trident | ||
* T.O.B.H | |||
* Stilaire | |||
* The Hobo | |||
* Mutation X | |||
* The Competition Doge | |||
==Batteries== | ==Batteries== | ||
* Efest IMRs | * Efest IMRs | ||
* Samsung Hybrids | |||
* AW IMRs | * AW IMRs | ||
* Panasonic Hybrids | * Panasonic Hybrids | ||
* MNKE IMRs | |||
* Sony [VTC4, VTC5] | |||
* LG He2 35 amp limit constant | |||
===Chargers=== | ===Chargers=== | ||
* TrustFire TR-001 | * NiteCore charges at .5 amp | ||
* | * TrustFire TR-001 charges at .5 amp | ||
* Efest luc 2 bay. Has speed charge at 1amp | |||
* Efest luc 4 bay. Has speed charge at 2 amp | |||
---TrustFire chargers do not have overcharge protection. Avoid if you don't know what this means.--- | |||
===Egos=== | ===Egos=== | ||
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* Mortar (Telescoping) | * Mortar (Telescoping) | ||
* Bombshell (Telescoping) | * Bombshell (Telescoping) | ||
* Gnome (18650 only) | |||
* Panzer | |||
* Nemesis | * Nemesis | ||
* Caravella | * Caravella | ||
* Chi-You | * Chi-You | ||
* The Hammer (Also Hammer clones, 18350 only without extension tube) | * The Hammer (Also Hammer clones, 18350 only without extension tube) | ||
* Tree of life | |||
* Swan | |||
* Mutant | |||
* Signum | |||
* The copper | |||
* Penny mod | |||
* Snow Wolf | |||
* Vanilla | |||
* Pegasus | |||
* XXIX | |||
===Hybrid Mods=== | ===Hybrid Mods=== | ||
* 4nine | |||
* Richman | * Richman | ||
* I-Hybrid | * I-Hybrid | ||
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* MVP | * MVP | ||
* SVD | * SVD | ||
* Rapor 60/120 | |||
* sx350 mods (ipv2) | |||
* sx330 (ipv3) | |||
* Hex Ohm (okr-t10) | |||
==Rebuilding== | ==Rebuilding== | ||
===Wicks=== | |||
* Stainless Steel Mesh | * Stainless Steel Mesh | ||
* Cotton [organic or medical grade is encouraged to avoid possible pesticides, boiling is recommended regardless of source] | * Cotton [organic or medical grade is encouraged to avoid possible pesticides, boiling is recommended regardless of source] | ||
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* Hemp | * Hemp | ||
* Ekowool | * Ekowool | ||
* Quartz rods | |||
===Wires=== | |||
* Kanthal | * Kanthal | ||
* Nichrome | * Nichrome | ||
* Titanium | * Titanium | ||
===Ohm's Law and Coil Theory=== | |||
==External Links== | ==External Links== | ||
[http://www.vapersrising.com/the-map/ The MAP | Vapers Rising] - Community maintained map of brick and mortar shops dedicated to or with a selection of e-cigarettes and accessories | [http://www.vapersrising.com/the-map/ The MAP | Vapers Rising] - Community maintained map of brick and mortar shops dedicated to or with a selection of e-cigarettes and accessories | ||
[[Category:Hardware]] | |||
[[Category:Recommendations]] | [[Category:Recommendations]] |
Latest revision as of 23:42, 23 November 2022
Babby's first e-cig
How it werks: the battery heats up a coil, typically kanthal wire, to vaporize the liquid surrounding it. The liquid is commonly held in a silica, cotton, or steel mesh wick.
What you need: a battery, a charger, an atomizer, and some e-liquid.
Recommendations
- <$30
- Ego-c twist
- Kanger Protank
- 510 Charger
- <$60
- Vamo VV Mod
- Several 18650 or 18350 batteries
- Kanger Protank
- Charger
Cigalikes
- $60
- eRoll/eMini
- Requires needle-tippled bottle heads for easiy fills of tank
Liquids
E-liquid, or e-juice, is made up of two main ingredients: Propylene Glycol (PG) and Vegetable Glycerin (VG), as well as natural and/or artificial flavorings. Some specialty liquids may also contain distilled water as a main ingredient.
PG is a low viscosity liquid and has many applications ranging from the suspension agent used in some inhalers, to an ingredient in FDA approved oral and topical medications, as well as a preservative in food and tobacco products. VG is a high viscosity liquid organic compound with applications ranging from use as a sweetener in foods, medications, soaps, and cosmetics.
As PG is a humectant it is recommended that you drink plenty of water to stay hydrated, as otherwise it is common to experience drying of the mouth, sore throat and some unproductive coughing (especially if you've recently quit smoking cigarettes.) If similar symptoms persist when hydrated, or become more severe e.g. sore or swollen mouth, face, gums, and/or back of throat, you should consider switching to a 100% VG concentration as you may be allergic or sensitive to PG.
The percentage of PG/VG is commonly 50/50, but what works best for you depends on your e-cigarette itself, personal preference, and their vaping properties. 100% VG puts out a lot of vapor, produces little to no throat hit, but mutes the flavor while 100% PG is the opposite. VG also has a relatively high resistance to the heat most atomizers put out, while a higher PG concentration might taste burnt at the same wattage.
Nicotine
Safety
See: Gwern on Nicotine
Recommended e-liquids
Flavor is subjective and boils down to personal taste: general e-liquid recommendations are hard and established preferences might not apply to e-liquid flavors e.g. one might prefer menthol cigarettes but dislike menthol e-liquid while preferring "tobacco" or coffee flavors. Your tastes will most likely change after you've quit smoking, or you might grow tired of a certain flavor, so it's recommended that you have several or more different preferred e-liquids. Mixtures and bases also vary among vendors so you may find that you prefer a fruit flavor from a certain vendor over others.
Only buy US or EU e-liquids, stay clear of Dekang shit. WESTERN WORLD STRONK.
Israeli and reptilian overlord liquids may also be acceptable.
Recommended brands for newbies in North America
MtBakerVapor - very cheap, good taste - customizable PG/VG blend
Fuzion Vapor - A little pricey, good taste - any liquid is available with menthol, which is a plus - all liquids are pure VG
AllAboutVapor - more expensive, very good taste - most (I think all, actually) liquids are 60PG/40VG - 5ml bottles are available at $2.95 a piece, good for trying a bunch of different flavors
Alpha & Omega - Medium cost - 70vg/30pg - Lots of fruits
Suicide Bunny - Mothers Milk
Once again, taste is completely subjective, and you may not like anything recommended here; however, it's a good place to start, and remember that no two flavors are quite the same. Some flavors even vary from batch to batch.
Also check out E-Liquid Reviews
DIY
- Propylene Glycol
- Vegetable Glycerin
- Distilled H2O
- Nicotine
- Nitrile gloves
- A place to cook, maaaan.
Atomizers
Cartomizers
Good place for new vapers to start. Most convenience store bought non-disposables use pre-filled cartomizers as "refills." Combines atomizer and an absorbent filler material which supplies the heating coil with liquid. Cartomizers themselves are disposable yet can usually be refilled several times before needing replacement. Cartomizers have been known to burn the filler material which freaks some people out.
Cartotanks
Clearomizers
Bottom coil
- Kanger Protank 1/2/3
- Kanger T3S
- Some leaking and gurgling issues occur with both the T3S and the Protanks, however, a DIY fix can be followed here.
- Evod
Top coil
- Mini Vivi Nova
- Kanger T2
Dripping Atomizers
Dripping atomizers are generally used for sampling flavors but they are preferred by many for their clean vape. Bridged atomizers have an additional piece of wicking material above the coil, while Bridgeless atomizers do not. Dripping is a convenience tradeoff, you will have to drip 3-4 more drops liquid into your atomizer very frequently.
- Cisco-spec
Atomizer Tanks
- AMP Tank
Rebuildable Atomizers
- Drunker Tank
Genesis
- RSST [Polycarbonate or Pyrex Tank]
- The Kraken
- AGA-t2
Bottom Fed Tank RBA
- Russian [91%]
- Fogger [v2, v3, v4]
- KayFun [lite, lite +, 3.1 ES] [Note: Fasttech now sells glass tank kits for some KayFun models for very cheap (~$3), so if you want a clear section but are worried about cracking this is a good solution.]
Rebuildable Dripping Atomizers
- Magma
- IGO-W
- IGO-L
- Nimbus
- Cyclone
- The Octopus
- The Omega
- The Patriot
- Trident
- T.O.B.H
- Stilaire
- The Hobo
- Mutation X
- The Competition Doge
Batteries
- Efest IMRs
- Samsung Hybrids
- AW IMRs
- Panasonic Hybrids
- MNKE IMRs
- Sony [VTC4, VTC5]
- LG He2 35 amp limit constant
Chargers
- NiteCore charges at .5 amp
- TrustFire TR-001 charges at .5 amp
- Efest luc 2 bay. Has speed charge at 1amp
- Efest luc 4 bay. Has speed charge at 2 amp
---TrustFire chargers do not have overcharge protection. Avoid if you don't know what this means.---
Egos
Box Mods
Mechanical Mods
--- WARNING: MECH MODS MAY BE DANGEROUS WITHOUT PROPER SAFETY PRECAUTIONS. MAKE SURE TO VAPE WITHIN YOUR BATTERY'S AMP LIMITS ---
- Astro (Telescoping)
- k100 (telescoping
- Mortar (Telescoping)
- Bombshell (Telescoping)
- Gnome (18650 only)
- Panzer
- Nemesis
- Caravella
- Chi-You
- The Hammer (Also Hammer clones, 18350 only without extension tube)
- Tree of life
- Swan
- Mutant
- Signum
- The copper
- Penny mod
- Snow Wolf
- Vanilla
- Pegasus
- XXIX
Hybrid Mods
- 4nine
- Richman
- I-Hybrid
Regulated Mods
- Vamo
- Provari
- Selegei
- DNA 20/30
- MVP
- SVD
- Rapor 60/120
- sx350 mods (ipv2)
- sx330 (ipv3)
- Hex Ohm (okr-t10)
Rebuilding
Wicks
- Stainless Steel Mesh
- Cotton [organic or medical grade is encouraged to avoid possible pesticides, boiling is recommended regardless of source]
- Amorphous Silica
- Hemp
- Ekowool
- Quartz rods
Wires
- Kanthal
- Nichrome
- Titanium
Ohm's Law and Coil Theory
External Links
The MAP | Vapers Rising - Community maintained map of brick and mortar shops dedicated to or with a selection of e-cigarettes and accessories