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Would it be ok to begin a drug page?--<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  07:07, 5 July 2019 (CEST)
Would it be ok to begin a drug page?--<span style="color:red;">S</span><span style="color:blue;">e</span><span style="color:green;">7</span><span style="color:purple;">e</span><span style="color:orange;">n</span>(1) ([[User talk:Se7en1|talk]])  07:07, 5 July 2019 (CEST)
== 8chan ==
Now that 8chan is kerput, and 8kun has no userbase (and is likely a DoD Honeypot) what do we do with all the old 8chan references? Side note: 2020 the decade of P2P Imageboards? --04:32, 11 January 2020 (CET)

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The Spam Problem

Jesus christ, why do we need Google Captcha. Besides training evil AIs, it is a nuisance of a service that doesn't work right. --Se7en(1) (talk) 23:50, 30 December 2018 (EST)

I absolutely agree, but look at Recent Changes, we still have some spam getting through... without it, the wiki (and db) would be inundated with spam. If you have a better option/idea to fight spam on MediaWiki please I am open to suggestions...--Bananafish (talk) 12:54, 31 December 2018 (EST)
Here's another issue. I, a logged in user, have to perform a captcha to submit an external link. Wikipedia doesn't even do that. There are other captcha services, btw. --Se7en(1) (talk) 21:00, 19 March 2019 (EDT)

Another issue with your spam-trackers, bannanafish. It filters the word V-A-C-C-U-M-E problem image link --Se7en(1) (talk) 22:18, 19 March 2019 (EDT)

The bots seem to only make accounts and edit user pages. A primitive approach would be to autoban users that try to edit/create userpages before contributing something else to the wiki. As in, new (real human) users need to contribute to some page on the wiki before they are allowed to make their own page. If I'm being retarded let me know. --Owsum (talk) 09:37, 5 May 2019 (EDT)

That was true, but it is no longer. The bots are now making pages containing Dental Advice. It seems that changing your userpage is a sign of a bot, but the deletion process is not automatic. It seems manual. --Se7en(1) (talk) 21:31, 13 September 2019 (CEST)
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I just ended sooooo many shitposting careers. If you got deleted, congratulations! You failed the Turing Test. We should either do *something* about this here or move somewhere else that doesn't have a spam problem. Maybe hosting the wiki on Github is more appropriate. --Yuki (talk) 22:27, 9 May 2019 (EDT)

An issue has become with the newest Spam Measure. You said that if you edit your user page, you fail the localized Turing Test. It isn't working. These spam accounts are editing their user pages over 20 times and are not banned. --Se7en(1) (talk) 23:51, 31 May 2019 (EDT)

The latest captcha is too easy. The majority of answers are simply "Yes" with only one or two being something that actually differs. What makes you think bots simply wont keep trying "yes" as an answer over and over again? They obviously already are as we have thousands of misinformation articles on dentistry all of a sudden.--Se7en(1) (talk) 22:21, 30 September 2019 (CEST)

I deleted what spam had collected. I'm not sure if they were doing it manually or if they were using the API, which I confirmed was still exposed up until a few hours ago. This also broke the WYSIWYG editor. By the proximity of the timestamps it looked like the page creations were rather coordinated/automated, however there were not many user accounts compared to the number of spam pages this time. It's possible the accounts were created manually and then updated using a bot. We'll soon know for sure exactly how much of the process was automated. --Yuki (talk) 06:06, 19 October 2019 (CEST)

Running list of ideas:

  • $wgSpamRegex - doing this already
  • StopFormSpam - worth looking into, will likely have to disable cloudflare
  • ConfirmEdit - doing this already with Captcha NoRecaptcha, may be worth going back to questy captcha with a lot more questions...
  • Clean Talk - looks similar to StopForumSpam but possibly not updated for 1.3.1
  • Follow these instructions to import Wikipedia templates here and here

Radio

We have a page for multiple forms of media, including TV Series, Movies, and Music. Should we add a page for Radio? Science-Fiction radio had existed for decades before television classics such as The Twilight Zone, and often the Sci-Fi shows of the early tv audience were actually rewritten radio scripts (Such as The Twilight Zone episode The Hitch-Hiker was first aired on the radio program The Orson-Welles' Show, and later-on the radio show Dimension X. Other notable programs include The Shadow, the aformentioned Dimension X, The New Adventures of Sherlock Holmes, The Adventures of Superman, and many, many others. --Se7en(1) (talk) 01:49, 30 March 2019 (EDT)

Recommended Software

"Recommended software" line is currently under the software tab. However this link is to category of recommendations that are mostly hardware.

It appears that the main purpose was to link to the 4 pages that are the lists for recommended software for android / GNU+Linux / OSX / Windows.

I propose that, like the "GNU/Linux, Windows and Android ricing" line, the "Recommended software" line should be changed to something similar to:

"Recomended Software for GNU/Linux, Windows, Android and OS X"

--Owsum (talk) 02:36, 16 April 2019 (EDT)

/drug/

Would it be ok to begin a drug page?--Se7en(1) (talk) 07:07, 5 July 2019 (CEST)

8chan

Now that 8chan is kerput, and 8kun has no userbase (and is likely a DoD Honeypot) what do we do with all the old 8chan references? Side note: 2020 the decade of P2P Imageboards? --04:32, 11 January 2020 (CET)